A Non-Mormon View on Polygamy
(Utah's Dirty Little Secret)
Reprinted from Salon Magazine
Week of August 2, 1998
EDITOR'S NOTE: This is the first of two interviews with women who have left polygamist
marriages.
BY ROS DAVIDSON
Last week a judge in Brigham City, Utah, ordered John Daniel Kingston, a prominent member
of a polygamist group, to stand trial for the recent assault of his 16-year-old daughter. Kingston, a
vice president in a Salt Lake City accounting and auditing firm, allegedly beat his daughter
unconscious because she did not want to be the 15th wife of his brother, her own uncle, in a
marriage arranged by Kingston, 43.
At the pretrial hearing, the teenager -- who is not being identified and is now in foster care --
testified that on May 24 her father took her to a remote family ranch near the Idaho border,
ordered her into a barn and made her take off her jacket, then whipped her with his belt at least
28 times for rebelling against the arranged marriage to David O. Kingston, a blood relative twice
her age.
The defendant, who pleaded not guilty Monday, faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted.
According to former members of the Kingston group, as the fundamentalist sect of the Mormon
church is often known, the defendant himself has more than 20 wives. Yet group leaders often
deny that the church practices polygamy.
Not surprisingly, polygamy is a public relations disaster for both Utah and the mainstream
Mormon Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which advocated the practice
until the late 1800s. Most Americans find the idea of plural marriage abhorrent and primitive -- a
woman who has one-half of a husband or less? -- especially since fundamentalist Mormon
churches usually preach that wives must also be obedient to the husband. There are others,
however, who argue that when polygamous adults are consenting, as they usually are, they should
be left alone.
Further complicating the matter is that Salt Lake City is desperately trying to update its image in
time for the Winter Olympics in 2002. The church, while growing steadily -- it has between 7
million and 10 million members worldwide -- is highly sensitive about its image. Because
Mormonism prohibits smoking and drinking, it is often characterized as conservative and strict.
An estimated 70 percent of Utahans are Mormon. And even today many mainstream Mormons
are sympathetic to polygamy, believing that although it is outlawed in modern society, it is an
ideal that will always be practiced in the highest levels of heaven, according to Utah historian
Richard S. Van Wagoner, author of "Mormon Polygamy" (Signature Books, 1989).
There are an estimated 30,000 polygamists in Utah alone and perhaps the same number in other
states. Most are members of fundamentalist Mormon splinter groups, of which the Kingston
group is one of the most prominent. They often hide their "plural marriage" from the outside
world because it is illegal and stigmatized.
The area that is Utah was first settled by Mormons in 1847, but their petitions for statehood
were repeatedly denied because of their polygamy. It was only after the church officially
repudiated the practice in 1890 that statehood was granted. And although the church has
excommunicated polygamists since 1904, it is still a highly sensitive issue. The Mormons who
first settled Utah had been fleeing persecution for their beliefs and practices. And to this day,
Mormons are often wary of admitting that the church's early leaders practiced polygamy, or
"spiritual wifery," as it is also known. In fact, Joseph Smith, the church founder and prophet, is
often said to have wed more than 50 women by the time of his death in 1844.
The idea of polygamy harks back to the families of biblical figures such as Abraham and Jacob.
Smith also had a revelation on the matter, now known as Section 132 of the famous decree
"Doctrine and Covenants," a companion to the Book of Mormon that is still part of Mormon
scripture. That particular revelation was also once described by Smith's successor, Brigham
Young, who would become the first governor of Utah, as "one of the best doctrines ever
proclaimed."
So although polygamy is embarrassing for modern-day Utahans, it is entwined with the history
and religious beliefs of most of the state's population. Plural marriages are rarely prosecuted,
even though Utah's Constitution specifically forbids them. In 1991, when a polygamist in Utah
filed for custody of six children by his third wife after she died of breast cancer, the state
Supreme Court overturned a lower court decision and said the polygamist had the right to adopt
despite his plural marriages.
Last week, because of the outcry over the upcoming Kingston trial, Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt, a
devout Mormon, seemed to tread a fine political line. He indicated that Utah has not cracked
down on polygamy because to do so might curb religious freedom in violation of the First
Amendment. "It's clear to me in this state and many others, they have chosen not to aggressively
prosecute it. I assume there is a legal reason for that. I think it goes well beyond tradition," he
said at his monthly news conference. "What needs to be cracked down on, if there is to be such a
crackdown, is any abuses of peoples' civil and human rights." Even so, the upcoming trial of
John Daniel Kingston is attracting international attention because polygamy, especially in the
United States, is so inherently fascinating yet so often completely hidden.
Tapestry of Polygamy, an unusual support group for those leaving polygamy, consists of
ex-wives and daughters from polygamous households. Eight members of the group attended last
week's preliminary hearing in which John Daniel Kingston was ordered to stand trial. Salon
talked with co-founder Rowenna Erickson about what members of her group say is an often
abusive and poverty-stricken lifestyle that, under the umbrella of religious belief, relegates
women to the role of subservient breeding machines and leaves children virtually fatherless.
Members of the group also held a news conference outside the state Capitol in Salt Lake City
yesterday to try to draw the governor's attention to what they say are widespread civil and human
rights abuses of women and children in polygamy.
Rowenna Erickson, 58, was born into the secretive Kingston church and lived for 34 years as
the second of two wives. She bore eight children in 13 years. For about a decade of that, until she
moved in with a daughter, she was so poor that she was on and off food stamps and collected
recyclable aluminum cans for money. Then, in 1992, she was excommunicated for questioning
what she saw as the church's harsh treatment of women and children. A grandmother of 10, she
says she is all too familiar with those involved in the Kingston case. Her former husband, Leon
Kingston, is a first cousin of defendant John Daniel Kingston and his brother David O. Kingston.
And the defendant's lawyer, Carl Kingston, is her former brother-in-law and, according to the
Salt Lake Tribune, believed to be the father of 20 children by two wives and another child from a
wife who left him.
You've lived most of your life as a polygamous wife, but your parents weren't polygamous.
How did you come to your decision to live a polygamous lifestyle?
My mother very much believed in it because of her Mormon background, although my father, a
Lutheran, didn't. My mother idealized it. She felt that, since she hadn't done it, at least one of her
children should. Also, she thought she'd get religious "credit" and that she'd be more likely to get
what we called "celestial glory" in the hereafter, which is what Mormons call heaven. That's
because our church believes that polygamy offers the only true path to the "celestial kingdom,"
the highest level of heaven, and that no family member will reach it unless a daughter is married
to a leader of the Kingston church. Marriage is considered eternal. So she conditioned me. I was
married in 1960, when I was 20 years old. My husband, Leon Kingston, was the firstborn son of
the church founder, Charles Elden Kingston.
Your husband already had one wife. Did you know her?
Yes, she was my older sister.
Your older sister? Isn't that rather, er, weird?
It does seem that way to other people. But when you're in that sort of group it seems completely
normal. Your thinking, doing and being are all controlled by the church. If the church said
something, we jumped. My marriage wasn't recognized, though, by the law of the land. Usually
only the first of a polygamist's plural marriages is legal.
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SINS OF THE FATHERS
The marriage must have changed your relationship with your sister profoundly.
Yes. She was eight and a half years older than me. It was very, very hard for her. She didn't
know how the first wife typically feels, as no one had talked to her about it. She became
depressed. She was angry, hurt and jealous. We talked about it at the time, but it was still hard. In
polygamy, the first wife thinks she's going to live "God's law" by having a "sister-wife," and it
turns out to be hard. So my sister blamed herself for not being able to please God. They'd had
three children and she got pregnant again just three months after I married him.
Did your sister attend your wedding?
Oh yes. The first wife gives the second wife to the husband; the second gives the third, and so
on. It's a religious ceremony. The ceremony is seen as validating the "celestial marriage" for all
eternity.
The term polygamy actually refers to having more than one spouse. I don't suppose a woman
ever took several husbands?
Gosh no! (laughs)
Now you were in the marriage for 34 years and you had eight children in the space of 13 years.
It sounds like you must have almost always been pregnant.
Yes, I had six girls and two boys. At one point I had three children in the space of three years
and two days. And my sister had six children.
So you didn't use birth control?
Oh no! Oh don't ever do that! You don't want to stop any of those little spirits from coming here
to earth. You should have as many children as you possibly can. Some people probably practice
it, and I thought about the rhythm method. But as my doctor said to me, "You know what they
call people who use the rhythm method? Parents."
How did you work out who spent the night with the husband?
We all lived together for 11 years in the same household, then I lived elsewhere and he
commuted between the two of us. We alternated nights and I was dutiful and never refused him.
It was very formal and sterile because my relationship, my marriage to him, had to be secret
because it was illegal. My kids -- like quite a few other kids in our church -- didn't even know
who their father was. It wasn't even known at first within the Kingston group because the group
had been investigated by a grand jury in 1959 for polygamy, and I think welfare fraud, so it was
all relationships were secret. It seems so stupid now. I'm ashamed and embarrassed. We were so
obedient to the organization, so loyal, and we kept all the secrets.
When your children asked about their father, what did you tell them?
I told them he was in the Army. When I think about it now it was such a terrible thing to say. It
was cruel because they kept expecting he would come home sometime and be their father. They
imagined all these wonderful things about him. They certainly didn't like the man they thought
was their uncle -- who in fact was their real father. He reprimanded them so much and never
showed any love or affection. My oldest daughter still doesn't like him at all.
Your sister became depressed after you married. Was it easier for you as the second, younger
wife?
Well, I was very strong. I'd grown up competing with four brothers. I was able to do it, but I was
so very lonely. I had no affection, no attention from this man. Intimacy was never talked about. I
remember I'd shower at night and I'd just cry in the shower so no one could hear me then. It was
horrible. I never had male companionship. I never loved him. When I was pregnant he wouldn't
even ask when the baby was due. Never a word.
What about your family's financial situation? Poverty is common in polygamist families
because there are so many children -- the wives are almost always pregnant or nursing. And your
church practiced consecration, whereby group members pooled their income with the church,
although you could withdraw some if you could prove you needed to. You also paid a 10 percent
tithe. In fact, it's not uncommon for polygamous wives to need welfare and to qualify for it as
single mothers, which they usually are in legal terms.
We were so poor, I used to watch other people's children for 32 cents an hour and collected
aluminum cans and pop bottles for extra money. I was on and off food stamps for more than 10
years. I baby-sat my sister's children. The men usually think that each wife should bear as many
children as possible, regardless of whether they can support them. And you're always pregnant.
Our church requires you to produce as many children as possible, because little spirits are waiting
to enter the world, via a male-female union, so they can be sent on their eternal path upwards and
one day become Gods over their own worlds. I began to become aware of a real discrepancy
between the spirituality of polygamy -- that it's the ideal marriage -- and the poverty and abuse
that polygamous families actually live with. It's demented.
Isn't the Kingston group affluent enough? It's been estimated that their business empire is worth
up to $150 million. In fact, in the last high-profile case involving the Kingstons, in 1983, the
then-leader, John Ortell Kingston, was estimated to have assets of some $70 million. That came
out because the state had sued him for massive alleged welfare fraud. It was charged that he had
four wives and 29 children who had collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in public
assistance over a 10-year period. [Editor's note: The case was settled out of court. Kingston
repaid $250,000 and did not have to take court-ordered paternity tests.]
Yes, the Kingstons have money, but they use members as virtual slave labor. The money was
for God, so it was invested in businesses so the Kingdom of God could grow. We were working
for less than minimum wage. At one point the state stepped in, so after that we had to pretend we
got minimum wage even though we weren't. We weren't supposed to complain or question the
church authority or God would disapprove. It's a big scam.
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SINS OF THE FATHERS, 2
At what age do most girls in the Kingston group marry and have children?
Most girls get married at 14, 16, 18, and have a baby every year. They cannot keep up
financially, and the children live in poverty, and the mothers are overwhelmed. There's arguing
amongst the women, and there's a lot of eating disorders because they try to keep slim for the
husband because they want to catch his attention because they don't see him very much.
In the Kingston group, which has about 1,500 members, the patriarchs had multiple wives. John
Daniel Kingston, the defendant, has more than 20, and you claim the leader of the group, Paul
Kingston, has 30-plus. There must be many young men left single. What happens to them?
They are allowed to marry someone outside of the group and she then becomes an automatic
member. But if a girl married on the outside, she was out. That was it. We actually have a man
who wants to become part of our group, Tapestry of Polygamy, the brother of one of our
members. He's a child of polygamy. He was physically abused and he says polygamy warps a
person's view of sexuality.
You also said you saw quite a lot of abuse toward children from other wives, so-called
sister-wives of their mother, which makes sense to me. Sort of like the wicked stepmother.
My family wasn't really that way. My sister and I were strong, and we really didn't need him,
our husband, although I suppose he was a good sperm donor because our children are really
outstanding. But there was a lot of abuse, and I heard about it a lot in other polygamous groups.
The most disciplined children were considered the best children. Mothers would threaten their
children to make them obedient. They were under so much pressure themselves and everyone
wanted to look good. I couldn't stand it
When you were still in the church, how did you view the outside world, what members of your
group sometimes call "Babylon"?
We more often called them "the outsiders," and we thought they'd all go to hell. Each
polygamous group, including ours, believes that it alone has the key, that their leader is the
greatest prophet on the planet. And we believed if a "celestial marriage" is not sealed by the right
people -- your own church leaders -- you won't have that husband or wife on the other side, for
eternity.
Why did you finally leave the group? I know you were eventually excommunicated, but I'm
wondering what led up to that.
I was taking classes in hypnotherapy and eventually realized what a lie I had been living. It's just
like [mega-selling author and recovery movement guru] John Bradshaw says, you're as sick as
your secrets. I went on this big spiritual quest and realized I'd never loved my husband and that I
was unhappy. I thought, "OK God, all these women here are complaining about you and thinking
you're not very nice to them and how could a God love women and tell them they had to live
polygamy?" I was excommunicated in 1992 for writing a letter to one of the church higher-ups
telling him off for never preaching love and for ruling by fear, and not many months later I left
my marriage. I had been dying inside. I became sick with asthma, I was depressed and stressed
out and I had so much tendinitis and bursitis in my hip, I was bedridden. I was broke, although I'd
been given a house by my former husband. But I had no skills that would help me get a job.
Were your children supportive?
My children really encouraged me to get out, otherwise I might not have been able to. I realized
that I couldn't still be a polygamist and help people get out of polygamy. When I came out, I
started going to the media, and whoever else I could to point out illegal activity in the Kingston
group -- the IRS, the FBI, the U.S. attorney, anywhere I could find to tell them that the church
[allegedly] was cheating on its taxes, paying members less than minimum wage and stealing
members' property.
Are any of your children still members? They were all adults when you were kicked out, so I
presume custody wasn't an issue.
My daughter Stacy is also a co-founder of Tapestry of Polygamy. My children were way ahead
of me. They thought polygamy was stupid all along and were waiting for me to catch on. One of
my daughters did marry someone from the group. She's not a plural wife but her husband is still a
group member, and he treats her like a plural wife -- he's somewhat abusive, and he can't get
close or emotional to her. She has to work hard and he doesn't contribute. He has his own money
but she's supposed to support the family. I don't intervene though. She has to work that out
herself.
Don't your husband and sister still support you, though? How do they view your founding
Tapestry of Polygamy?
I try to keep them out of it, as they're embarrassed by it. My sister has a business and caters to a
lot of fundamentalists, so I try not to expose her. But now that the focus is on the Kingstons,
because of this case, Tapestry of Polygamy is getting a lot of attention.
You know the Kingstons who are on trial, right?
Oh yes. John Daniel, who's married to his half-sister, he had his daughter marry his brother
when she was 15 or 16. She was the 15th wife, but she couldn't do it, couldn't marry him. She
kept running away so John Daniel [allegedly] beat the daylights out of her to make her do what
he wanted her to do. You beat them up and threaten them. That's what polygamy's about --
coercion, fear and abuse. It's a question of power and control and a lot of sex. Polygamists are not
as spiritual as you're led to believe -- there's wife-swapping, m nage trois, use of pornography.
There's no end to it. John Bradshaw came to Salt Lake City and said, "There's a high rate of
incest whenever there's a patriarchal order." And I thought, "Wow John, you're pretty brave
coming to Mormondom and telling them that." There's a lot of genetic problems because of the
incest.
Do you think polygamy should be outlawed? If the adults are consenting and there's no abuse?
Some of the women in the group think that polygamists should be prosecuted, others say if you
prosecute them, they will become victims and martyrs and go underground. Most of them will
never change anyway. I just want the abuses prosecuted. There was a case in Colorado City,
Ariz., about 15 years ago where a woman tried to run away and she was returned to her husband
by the police.
Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt recently commented on polygamy and even admitted that his
great-great-great-grandfather had "many families," which sounded to me like a bit of a
euphemism. He also said that polygamy may be a constitutional right because of religious
freedom.
It was a whitewash. He brushed it off. Polygamy is Utah's dirty little secret. They just don't want
to deal with it because Mormons and polygamists are kissing cousins. If we have to, we'll go to
Janet Reno to get the abuses prosecuted. I also want people to know that polygamy is not because
of God. It can't be, because of the abuse and the deprivation of women and children.
Can polygamy work? For others, if not for yourself?
No. I don't think it ever works. You cannot live with polygamy, because that would mean
ignoring the pain, abuse, neglect and poverty. As a friend of mine, who's in pain and agony
because of polygamy, said, "It's one big eternal ----."
One big eternal ----?
Spiritually speaking, you're going to be with him and have his children to populate other worlds,
for eternity. Well what does it involve? He's going to have sex forever and ever and ever. And
she's going to be pregnant forever and ever and ever. So this woman said, "It's just one big eternal
----."
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T H E _D I C T A T O R . I N . T H E . H O U S E
In the second of two interviews with polygamist wives, Vicky Prunty talks about how women
become powerless in "plural marriages."
EDITOR'S NOTE: This is the second of two interviews with women who have left polygamist
marriages. An interview with Rowenna Erickson ran yesterday.
BY ROS DAVIDSON
It was in a McDonald's, with the smell of hamburgers and fries, that Vicky Prunty was first
introduced to a pretty younger woman named Martha (not her real name), who would become her
husband's second wife in a polygamous marriage. Right there in the fast-food restaurant, Greg
(not his real name), a former Mormon missionary, whisked a ring off Vicky's finger and placed it
on the hand of her new "sister-wife."
It was a highly symbolic moment in Prunty's plural marriage -- an institution that has been so
stigmatized that it prompted fighting between Mormon settlers and U.S. Army troops almost 150
years ago and then delayed Utah's statehood until the practice was relinquished by the Mormon
Church. Polygamy is still practiced by a surprisingly large number of people in Utah and nearby
states. An estimated 30,000 or more adhere to what they see as a purer form of Mormonism.
Polygamy exploded onto the front pages of Utah newspapers this week. An alleged polygamist,
John Daniel Kingston, 43, pleaded not guilty on Monday in a court in Brigham City to charges of
beating his 16-year-old daughter unconscious because she refused to be the 15th wife of her
uncle, a man twice her own age. Both men are prominent members of the fundamentalist
Latter-day Church of Christ, or Kingston group, one of the best-known yet most secretive
polygamous sects. Kingston faces a pretrial hearing on Aug. 24. A custody hearing is also
scheduled for that day. Members of Kingston's family will reportedly try to regain custody of the
young woman, now in foster care.
A group of ex-wives and daughters of polygamy, Tapestry of Polygamy, also made headlines on
Monday in the Salt Lake Tribune when it urged Gov. Mike Leavitt, a devout Mormon, to take a
firm stand against polygamy. The practice is, strictly speaking, illegal, although the state has not
prosecuted anyone solely for polygamy since the 1950s. The ex-wives' group says that polygamy
encourages abuse of women and children and imprisons them in poverty without an outside
support network. Many polygamous wives have no skills for earning wages. And since only the
first of a polygamist's marriages is state-sanctioned, later wives have no legal recourse if they
leave; they may never see child support or alimony.
Prunty is the director of Tapestry and one of its founders. Now 35 and divorced, she is
struggling to support five children ages 4 to 13. A sixth, her oldest boy, has returned to live with
his father and Prunty's former "sister-wife." Prunty has found that leaving a fundamentalist
polygamist marriage can be difficult. Upon leaving Greg, she briefly married a second
polygamist husband, unsure about leaving the institution altogether. At one point after her
divorce she was shocked and angry to learn that her children, while visiting their father and her
former sister-wife, had been told to pray for Vicky's death because they claimed she was a sinner.
Prunty, a Californian, was not born into polygamy. A Mormon since age 10, she met her first
husband, a Mormon missionary and an Englishman, at Brigham Young University when she was
a freshman and he was a senior. Not long afterwards, when they were living as devout suburban
"Mormon Yuppies" in Mesa, Ariz. -- she was a mother of two and he was a salesman -- they
decided polygamy would be the best way of serving God faithfully. Salon interviewed Prunty by
phone at her Salt Lake City home as she was caring for several children.
As leader of Tapestry of Polygamy, you told the media on Monday that Gov. Mike Leavitt's
comment that polygamy may be constitutionally protected amounts to tacit approval of the
abusive practice. Yet you chose to live in polygamy not once but twice.
I grew up with divorced parents. And at the age of 7, we were distributed amongst other
relatives. So I was an orphan whose parents never died. Because of that childhood, I married a
man who was older than me. He was 25 and I was 18. I was always needy of a father figure and
wanted to be led by someone who was strong. I was always attracted to that. Then once we had
married, my husband and I started investigating early teachings of the Mormon Church. We
really wanted to please God and not man, to live the gospel as it first originated under Brigham
Young and other early leaders. We believed that polygamy was a way of living by the
commandments and preparing ourselves for Zion, when Christ would come back.
You read a great deal about Mormonism. How exactly was polygamy justified?
The teachings were vague. It's in Doctrine and Covenants, Section 132 -- kind of a companion
to the Book of Mormon -- but it's vague. It doesn't tell you the reason except to multiply, to build
kingdoms and principalities and the hereafter in heaven and here on earth and to bring about the
birth of "children's spirits."
How do you see it now?
Now I think that polygamy is designed to oppress women and to keep them in bondage to men.
Choosing polygamy because of religion, because you fear that if you don't chose it you'll be
damned for eternity, is very different from choosing polygamy because you really want to take in
a lonely widow -- to be kind to family, friends and neighbors. I mean, in this day and age do we
really need to have polygamy? It's not as if there aren't enough men to go around! There are also
so many orphan children and other unfortunate children in this world, I don't know if the answer
is to continue having as many children as possible. That's why I say to polygamous men: "Do a
good deed, don't just spread your seed."
Presumably at the time you couldn't stay in the Mormon Church as polygamists. You'd be
excommunicated.
Yes, so we returned to Utah and joined a small fundamentalist group and -- quite literally --
lived in a rock in Moab, a cave blasted into the side of a sandstone rock in the desert. It had a
concrete floor and a wood stove. We lived there collectively with a polygamist, his three wives
and children. Now it's a bed and breakfast.
When was it that your husband took a second wife?
We'd been married about seven years and had three children when Greg met her. He had been
visiting the Singer/Swapp clan while traveling to and from Salt Lake City to Moab.
The clan was the fundamentalist group in Heber Valley that bombed a Mormon chapel in
January 1988 to get back at the "Mormon-run state" for shooting dead their patriarch, John
Singer, a few years earlier. And within months of the bombing, a stand-off with the FBI and
police in Marion, Utah, left one police officer dead.
Yes, when the leaders of the clan were jailed, Greg had to spend time with Singer's widow and
her family. While living there, he met the young redheaded daughter of the clan's lawyer, Martha.
She was about 19 or 20. He married her and came back and I had to give her to him in a
ceremony, which is typical. I put her hand in his. I felt uncomfortable with it, but I wasn't
convinced that it was wrong.
I believed that we would be living polygamously at some other time, perhaps in the next world.
I thought that trying to practice polygamy on this imperfect earth was like eating your favorite
Marie Callender pie in a dump. I mean, I thought this world is so monogamous. Cars are not built
for polygamous marriages. You have only two front seats, not three for a man and two wives. It's
very difficult to fit in if you have more than one wife. When my husband went to business dinner
parties, we accompanied him alternately. As a wife, I was also bothered by the imperfections of
man. Polygamy meant I had to follow my husband as he was the patriarch. That was what we
believed. It was our law. You're following an imperfect human. And who wants to follow an
imperfect human?
So what happened? I know as a family you moved several times, and at least twice lived in Salt
Lake City.
Well at first I went along with the marriage. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. We
lived in the same home. I was in the marriage for a few years. I lived upstairs and she lived
downstairs and we pretty much shared the middle floor. She had a nice big wedding and
reception. I had to hide in the background -- I was told to act like a friend of the family -- because
he wanted the image of marrying monogamously for his career. I'd just had a baby a few days
earlier. It was so difficult. It was not natural, for me at least. Yet the whole time I was trying to
convince myself that polygamy was right and I was wrong because of the religion behind it.
How was it decided who spent the night with whom?
We just had an arrangement, every other night.
What about her -- did you like her?
I liked her, but I didn't understand why he had chosen her. I had always thought that plural
marriage would be more charitable, something you do to help women without husbands, the
single women. But I knew that in his heart he would not have married somebody who was just a
service project. He chose this woman because of her body proportions.
Didn't that make you jealous?
He had told me he wanted someone who was shapely. He chose her partly for her body. That
hurt me, and I realized that he was more in it for himself than anything else. I mean those
brownie points in heaven were his. It wasn't like the law of Sarah in the Bible. It was the law of
Abraham. It was all male-oriented. I felt as if I was the martyr of the whole thing. It was just a
charade. I realized -- and it took me a while -- that the dynamics and the institution did not
emancipate a woman. I only realized this when all of a sudden our partnership turned into a
dictatorship. In monogamy, our relationship wasn't perfect but it was pretty balanced in terms of
power. But when he became the husband of two wives, the only way to keep order in the home
was to become more powerful. Otherwise he'd have two wives going different ways. He had to
put his foot down to get consensus.
How did he demonstrate this power?
He started saying things like, "You're mine to dispose of unless I find you worthy." Or, "I'm the
tree with the shade, and if you don't like my shade, you can leave." He'd also give my nights with
him to my "sister-wife" if he was angry with me. The problem was, he didn't tell me how I could
leave. What was I supposed to do without money and all these kids? I also have a copy of a
scripture he wrote in which he said, "If the wife is subject to her husband's law, then she truly has
no right to refuse his taking other wives beside her in her lifetime. She is, after all, under his
dominion." Martha was also obviously his favorite, so it wasn't at all easy. At various points,
Greg would even try and convince me that I was possessed by demons, because I was rebellious
and unhappy. Some of the other men in our group would try and exorcise me.
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THE DICTATOR IN THE HOUSE,2
What was it like for the children?
You have to realize that one of the really deceptive things about polygamy is the love that
children have for their siblings, their half-siblings. But it mixes things up in a way. It's great to
have a large family, to think of humankind as all being brothers and sisters and taking care of
each other. But when you don't have your individual families, when you don't understand the
responsibilities and associations of family members, it can get very confusing. When I was
picking my kids up this weekend from visitation, my daughter had this present and it was signed
from her "Mom and Dad." All the kids, my kids, have to call their stepmother "Mom." That's one
of the rules of their family. To them, in the eternity, that's who they've been taught will be their
mother because I'm a sinner and I have been cut off from the family for leaving. So it mixes them
up. Of course, none of these things you could ever prove in a court of law because emotional and
mental abuse is much harder to prove than physical abuse. Their word against mine. That's the
sort of indoctrination we go up against.
What do the children think about calling Martha "Mom"?
Well, I just saw that gift card and we haven't discussed it yet. I know that if I call the children up
when they're there, they say "Mom said this, Mom said that." I say, "Well I'm your mother." But I
can't force them not to say it when they're there. I'm their mother. I have made a huge sacrifice on
their behalf and there's no way she will ever love those children like I do. I really struggled to be
a good mother and the one thing that has really spurred me on, especially to do what I'm doing
today, advocating for other mothers, is that I think that motherhood is the greatest job in the
whole wide world. I have a hard time when people give lip service to that and to families. It's
been very hard for me as a single mother to leave my children to go to work when I feel they
need me at home.
When did you leave your marriage?
I left 11 years after we married when I realized that I'd put myself in a position to be used for his
glory, his ego. I'd gotten pretty used to not having an intimate relationship with anyone.
You didn't want to have more of a relationship with him?
I didn't know what a good relationship was. Even in monogamy, our relationship wasn't that
great. I'm sure that's why he took a second wife. It was a relief not having him around sometimes
because you could do your own thing. I disciplined and fed the children and did all the same
things for him. I had to baby him, and when he wasn't around I didn't have to do it. It wasn't a real
partnership when we were monogamous either. But I continued to think that plural marriage was
a good thing, it was just the guy I married is a power freak.
So I went into another plural marriage as a third wife. The husband, Carl, knew my first
husband and his family seemed like they were very happy in polygamy. The first wife, Judy, had
three children and the second wife, Maggie, was pregnant. I told them I didn't want to be
full-fledged wife but I wanted to be part of a family as I want my children to have a father -- at
least a part-time one.
But then Carl revealed to us that he never believed in polygamy, that he had just taken wives
because he wanted to have sex with more than one woman. He was honest with us. Of course it
shocked me and I had to run into the bathroom crying and wondering what was going on. I felt
sick because I had actually started to fall in love with this man. Another thing that I noticed was
the first wife was going through the same things I had gone through when my husband took a
second wife -- jealousy, insecurity. And her husband was sometimes strutting around like this
rooster. She became almost became numb. I could see her almost becoming a zombie. This
woman was a really strong woman. Then I became pregnant with his child.
Where were you living?
Salt Lake City.
Did the neighbors say anything about your plural marriage?
I think that here in Utah we're pretty used to polygamous families. I eventually moved out and
moved back to California for a couple of years. I thought I could get some support from my
family. I found out that my first husband was praying for my death with my children, because he
thought i was such a sinner. He and his wife don't pray for my death now. But when he did it was
almost like a predator, a lion, going for the weakest one. I was very weak.
Why did you return to Utah?
I wanted to do something about polygamy. I went to court because I had a hard time accepting
that my husband had visitation rights. The children have always been with me. Raising them has
not been a partnership. He was just the breadwinner. He was going from house to house, between
his two wives, but my children were always with me. Why all of a sudden when I get a divorce
should it be any different? At least with monogamy, the husband is with his children in one
home.
You were initially in a shelter when you left because you were so poor.
Yes. That was when I left him and moved to California. When I came back to Utah, I wanted to
go to school to get my degree. I was getting some child support but it wasn't enough. I tried living
near my second husband. I rented from him. But it didn't work. After about 18 months of living
there, I left and had to go to a shelter. And I realized that my dream has really been to help
women to get out of abusive situations and to get the resources and their needs taken care of.
Do you think polygamy can ever work?
If a woman wants to be treated as an equal and she wants a partnership in rearing her children,
monogamy is probably the way. If she wants to have a husband who has sex with other woman
and she wants to be submissive and have lots of children, then she perhaps should go into plural
marriage. It's a lot like being a single mother except you still have a leader. But you're usually
lonely and don't have much money. About 30 percent of polygamous wives in some communities
get welfare. As for me, I definitely want something better for me and my children.
Does polygamy attract certain women?
Oh yes. They have to be quite sheltered. Young is good too. Innocent, not very educated. They
prey upon women who aren't strong, with low self-esteem. Often women are just brought up as
plural wives. I didn't grow up in it so it was easier to get out. We're finding thousands of children
are being brought up in it and their lives are ruined. And it's becoming more prevalent as there
are so many different lifestyles. This is just one of them, though it's based on power and control
so it's not just another alternative lifestyle. Religion is also man-made and this type of marriage is
one of those things that men use to overpower women. Any organization that is based on a male
book is not my thing.
Why are you speaking out against polygamy now? Because of this upcoming case involving
John Daniel Kingston?
I think that all of us [at Tapestry of Polygamy] got sick of the abuse -- it's been so hush-hush.
It's like Utah's dirty little secret. And because we've been involved in polygamy, we wanted to do
something about it after we got out. We wanted to help others who are still involved and are
trying to get out. We wanted to say to this young girl, "Hey, we're here for you."